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Get out of De Nile 😀

People are still searching about this issue and it’s getting no clearer.

You have a choice:

  • Get a job (with a work permit) but make sure you’ve been doing the same job for at least 4 years in your home country
  • Marry one of those God’s gift to the earth Egyptian men 😉
  • Study at an Egyptian University
  • Move to Luxor where the immigration office doesn’t know about the “new” law 😀
  • Get a new identity which states you’re 60+ years old
  • Make plans to live somewhere else

What you shouldn’t do is hope that they’ll change their mind and this new mess will only last as long as the traffic laws.

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Time to move on

They’ve changed the visa rules in Egypt. I live here on a tourist visa, as do a number of others. It’s always been fine for many nationalities to renew their visa annually and live here without the need to marry an Egyptian, work or study. The five year residence visa is impossible to obtain without the former two factors. Foreigners come here for a number of reasons; some to retire, some for the cheaper cost of living, some buy property, some for hijrah – it’s one of the easiest countries to live in visa wise so an apt choice for those looking for relief from the stress, expense or isolation they may face in their home countries. Egyptians have always been seen to welcome others and so the former mentioned groups can live in relative peace and happiness.

Those living in this way also tend to integrate better into the society as opposed to the Petroleum expats who simply see it as a benefit to live like kings while their wives, shop, beautify themselves, get chauffeured around by the driver (yes darling), do lunch (and sometimes “do” the local help from what I’ve heard), oh and they’ll learn their one Arabic word – Shukran!

The company I worked for before employed me and paid me via their European head office in order to save the hassles of applying for the work visa, the process for which is a mess of red tape and bureaucracy. Many companies here in Egypt are employing foreigners “under the table” for this reason and while it’s not right, they blame the hassle and expense. Others say it’s unfair to the Egyptians who would be able to do the same job and lose the chance because of these “khawagaat”. According to my previous employers if this was the case they wouldn’t have hired me since the Egyptian is far cheaper, but in their experience less productive. Kheir. It’s not about who may be better or worse. This will now end!

In the past couple of weeks, those going to get their annual visa renewed at Mogamma in Tahrir (read “Hell’s reception” and star of the hilarious Adel Imam movie Irhab wil Kebab) have been informed that they will be given 3 months only after which they’ll not be able to obtain another. They will need to get married, get a job or study if they want to remain in the country. In the words of one such foreigner “It’s not enough to love Egypt and Egyptians anymore”.

The major shock, upheaval and mess this is going to cause for some doesn’t bear thinking about. I’ve read that there are people with property here who can’t get the residence visa due to delays in paperwork or general maladministration. There are people who have sold up everything in their home countries to settle in Egypt because there was no indication that this was going to happen. So why did it happen? Apparently it’s a tit for tat strategy in response to the alleged mistreatment of Egyptians by foreign embassies. The reams of paperwork, waiting times and lack of respect which Egyptians face when applying for European visas which is in opposition to the ease foreigners experience when their visas are granted in the airport on arrival, has prompted the foreign minister to issue a number of complaints to the European Ambassadors. Are their complaints justified? I’m not Egyptian so I haven’t experienced it, but assuming that the people doling out this disrespectful treatment are Egyptian embassy workers themselves it gives rise to the fact that there is more to this than simple inequality.

Customer service in general is lacking here in Egypt; sour faced government employees, who could kill you with a look; don’t expect a smile! Sullen shop assistants who prefer to lose a sale rather than find you your preferred size; don’t expect a “Good day”! Supermarket cashiers who throw your groceries down the checkout; don’t expect a thank you! So who can expect the embassy staff to be any better?

This man puts the situation into context:

Serious visa people

Sir– Re ‘Unacceptable treatment‘ ( Al-Ahram Weekly 21-27 August), there is definitely no balance in the way Egyptians get their visas and the manner Europeans do. A European can enter and simply “buy” the entry visa at the airport for 15 euros. For an Egyptian, having a visa to the EU entails a mass of paperwork, bank account statements as well as guarantees. Are EU embassies treating Egyptians unfairly? I don’t think so. The process might be complicated but it’s straightforward and clear. There is little manoeuvring an EU embassy official can do to deny a visa if documentation is correct and complete.

The Schengen visa constitutes 25 countries today, and many people “shop” around trying to see cracks in the system and see which embassy is the easiest to trick, not knowing that the News SYSII has all shared data and information across the entire EU and Switzerland. I do not want to imply that any Egyptian applying for an EU visa is trying to go with an ulterior motive, but sadly we have to look at the reality of the day and that sums up the situation in economy terms.

Europeans are in large measure tourists and they come helping the economy spending their euros. I doubt that anyone will arrive to the shores of the land of Egypt to seek illegal employment or asylum. Given the official statistics, Egypt, after Iran and Pakistan, holds for the European Union the most number of forgeries, attempts at cutting the system and definitely trying to work, or as an asylum seeker, when travelling on the basis of a tourist visa.

Do Egyptians feel that they are badly treated? I guess they do, but Europeans never were “too warm” or like Egyptians who like to be “friends” from the first encounter. It might seem rude to Egyptians but from a European point of view, you are a visa applicant. Their process is emotions-free.

Farouk Mogheth

Bangkok
Thailand

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So where will this leave the jobless, single foreigner with no plans or means to study? I don’t know about the others but for me it’s an opportunity to put a pin in the map and find a new home. I’m a freelancer anyway and my clients are not in Egypt so the hassles for me will be limited to selling up furniture, packing my suitcase, saying goodbye to friends, finding a new place to live, changing my phone number, informing all my family, friends and contacts and trying to make sure I stay connected to the internet. I could return to England, but this is not an option I want to take. It’s hard to go home when you’ve changed, people you knew have changed, priorities and interests have changed and if we consider that culture shock is bad, reverse culture shock is worse.

So where to next? Malta, Spain, Turkey? J

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